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What are yeh all standin' around her fur? Haven't yeh ever seen a varying opinion?
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Buy both WA - Excellent scores in their own right! Do'h it's Jerry Goldsmith after all! A no-brainer you wud say!
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Way back in 1989, when reviewing Star Trek V for Soundtrack Magazine, I said it was "easily the equal of Star Trek: The Motion Picture".
I should like to recant that statement!
Star Trek V is an excellent score, but Star Trek: The Motion Picture is one of Goldsmith's truly momentous and inventive efforts. Few of his scores are as imaginative in their use of timbre as that first Star Trek score, and its array of eclectic percussion -- Blaster Beam, rob rods, waterphone, etc. (plus Fox's pipe organ).
Star Trek V on the other hand relies entirely on synthesizers (and samples) for its unusual timbres. It's a good use of synths...but not nearly as striking as the instrumentation featured on the original.
That said, Star Trek V is arguably a "warmer" score, where Goldsmith is able to play-off the relationship of Kirk, Spock and McCoy in some very touching passages. Star Trek: The Motion Picture does have a love theme, but is more of a "cosmic epic", which evokes the vastness of space, and a sense of great wonder (and sometimes doom).
Despite sharing the same main (and one secondary) theme, the scores are really nothing alike.
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Checks date... Nope! Not April Fools Day. Surely OP jests? And why does it seem SchiffyM and I are in agreement more times than not nowadays? Well with the one caveat, I actually enjoy TMP score and film.
The Solium Caveat
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TFF
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TFF
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HE'S LOST HIS MIND!
I think that makes sense-I was thinking it was in the Superman title tone as well. Interestingly when the rebooted STAR TREK in 2009 they decided to stay with the core name for the the title.
In 1979 calling it "The Motion Picture" made it different from Star Trek. In 2009 there were literally dozens of other Star Treks. Calling it simply Star Trek WAS differentiating it.
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HE'S LOST HIS MIND!
I think that makes sense-I was thinking it was in the Superman title tone as well. Interestingly when the rebooted STAR TREK in 2009 they decided to stay with the core name for the the title.
In 1979 calling it "The Motion Picture" made it different from Star Trek. In 2009 there were literally dozens of other Star Treks. Calling it simply Star Trek WAS differentiating it.
Seeing that avatars reminds me, I probably need to grab WoK for my next ST purchase after TMP. Final Frontiers can apparently wait for now...the grand consensus (as well as my youtube investigations) seem to bear that out.
Still, I definitely liked what I heard of Final Frontier. Would love to check out the expanded.
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Seeing that avatars reminds me, I probably need to grab WoK for my next ST purchase after TMP. Final Frontiers[sic] can apparently wait for now...the grand consensus (as well as my youtube investigations) seem to bear that out.
TFF, although highly glossy and enjoyable, sounds like "Rambo III in Space."
I'm laughing so hard my computer is shaking...got to...gain...control....
Hokay, had I never heard a note of FF that would have been an offputting comment (not much a fan of the Rambos/Blood score...love the first movie though).
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Seeing that avatars reminds me, I probably need to grab WoK for my next ST purchase after TMP. Final Frontiers[sic] can apparently wait for now...the grand consensus (as well as my youtube investigations) seem to bear that out.
TFF, although highly glossy and enjoyable, sounds like "Rambo III in Space."
I'm laughing so hard my computer is shaking...got to...gain...control....
Hokay, had I never heard a note of FF that would have been an offputting comment (not much a fan of the Rambos/Blood score...love the first movie though).
In 1989 while I was listening to TFF (and building my first CG Enterprise) my kid brother walked in the room and loudly complained "Why are you listening to Rambo?!?" So the notion has merit.
TFF is terrific. It's just nowhere near TMP.
I don't know what to tell you about TWOK and TSFS. I'm also in the camp that TSFS is the better score. But I'm also aware that it is almost entirely dependent on TWOK. So it's not really better on its own. You might say it's a better second half.
I'd probably suggest getting into TWOK for a while then move on the TSFS. Or listen to them one right after the other. Either way.
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TFF is terrific. It's just nowhere near TMP.
I don't know what to tell you about TWOK and TSFS. I'm also in the camp that TSFS is the better score. But I'm also aware that it is almost entirely dependent on TWOK. So it's not really better on its own. You might say it's a better second half.
I'd probably suggest getting into TWOK for a while then move on the TSFS. Or listen to them one right after the other. Either way.
This is very helpful. Next Star Trek score I grab will probably be both TWOK and TSFS. I really like the idea of those two being like pieces in the same puzzle. The first two Omens were a bit like that.
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