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... overlong and repetitive soundtrack presentations. A properly arranged album by the composer or producer will ALWAYS be preferred, but when that's not the case, you resort to "emergency measures".
overlong.
repetitive.
properly arranged album.
I wonder how you whittlers would react to Morton Feldman's String Quartet No.2 which exceeds 6 hours in duration without breaks! 
The reverse side of the whittler's coin might very well reveal 1) the listeners' intolerance towards duration & reiteration of content in addition to 2) their preconceived notions on what an album should be ... and, also, their expectations that what they listen to should be an album in concept.
... I'm blissfully unattached to such limiting notions ... but then I'm not a whittler. 
No emergency measures needed with me.
Yeah Zardoz, I'm not a whittler either, but I am a glutton for punishment. You've already touched on the point of "preconceived notions on what an album should be", and "expectations.... an album in context". So we know what you mean.
The trouble with your Morton Feldman string quartet example is that (as you know) that's the way it was conceived. With complete or even semi-complete film score presentations we're often dealing with everything but/ and the kitchen sink, which - out of the context of the film - might end up being a chore to listen to without "whittling". In fact, it would be hard to imagine the result being otherwise.
I'll finish with one of my anecdotes (switch off now ye of low-tolerance levels regarding blarney) - You may know that Morty Feldman (he liked to be called "Marty" - that tickled him) wrote the entire score for the long-running Venezuelan soap opera "Fuera de mis Bragas, Cabrón" (1959 - 2001), the longest-running Venezuelan soap opera ever, and the only one with a specially-composed musical score for each episode. Marty wrote approximately 1,590 hours of original music for that, and when released on the independant Venezuelan CD label "Loco" - in 24 box-sets of 15 CDs each - even Marty exclaimed that it was "too long" and "jeez I coulda done with a whittler there".
Normal service shall now be resumed.
THE RUSSIA HOUSE is, in my opinion, Jerry Goldsmith's last truly great score, and I don't find it a second too long on album. And I mean that most sincerely folks! I really do.
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SBD =
THIS is what I'm talking about. I will check out THE RUSSIA HOUSE CD this weekend and see if The Deal needs to make the cut.
I know I'm not on the same page as Graham re RUSSIA HOUSE album though.
THOR =
My edition is mainly the nicer, ambient tracks - 2049, Sapper's Tree, Rain, Mesa, Joi, plus Tears In Rain and the song, Almost Human, which has strangely grown on me - Sea Wall is the only (mainly) discordant cue I include, which I love and hate in equal measure.
Yavar =
Great MISTS OF AVALON playlist (I hope). I will check it out asap.
JTW =
No, BLOWN AWAY wasn't whittled by me. I don't have that CD.
I can't believe you're only a lurking whittler.
You need to get your hands dirty! 
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Thor
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THOR =
My edition is mainly the nicer, ambient tracks - 2049, Sapper's Tree, Rain, Mesa, Joi, plus Tears In Rain and the song, Almost Human, which has strangely grown on me - Sea Wall is the only (mainly) discordant cue I include, which I love and hate in equal measure.
Yeah, pretty much similar to mine, then (except I didn't include "Tears in Rain" as it wasn't original to the film).
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Tales From Whittle-Dom..
It's always fun to revisit a CD, many years later and do a re-whittle.
The number of times I've changed the playlist, bringing in cues I didn't care for on the original whittle and losing tracks that suddenly sounded less palatable to my tastes.
I remember the JOHN CARTER CD, wherein I wanted a 30 to 45 minute playlist, but I just kept adding tracks with subsequent CD plays, cos it kept getting better and better. I think, in the end, I only jettisoned 2 or 3 tracks.
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I don't whittle down, like say Thor, but on some rare occasions if I don't like parts of cues of some cues, I'll make a personal edit in a preferred listening order.
An example is "Contract on Cherry Street", which I made into an excellent listening experience that tells a musical story from start to end.
Sounds intriguing, please post an edit/playlist if you have a chance.
I don't make or keep any such records. At best all I have is a page noting what cues I would use and not use, what parts I wanted to use of certain cues.
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I play my CD's through on many occasions, but like with a band who have one or two tracks on an album that you don't care for, more often than not, I find some score tracks are dull or filler-like, so they go, to streamline my 'on the go' listening experience.
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I pretend that all my CDs are actually vinyl albums, so it's too much bother to whittle, skip tracks or whatever you want to call it. One of the results of having been conditioned by the LP experience is that, quite often, if I don't feel like listening to the whole thing (either because bits are boring, or because I don't have time), I'll play the CD as if it were an LP. So on a 40-min CD I'll play the first 20 mins then continue later. And on 80-min CDs I'll play it like a double album in four sessions. 60-min CDs are played like those rare LPs that lasted half an hour each side. By splitting things up like that, I don't get burned out, and it's surprising how refreshing a formerly "boring" track can sound when played as the first of a session.
I don't do that ALL the time though. Some albums (even C n' C ones) can hold my attention throughout with no whittling or breaking-up-into-chunks. Maybe that would be a good topic in itself.
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I used to be like Thor and Graham, in my LP days and early CD days, but with the advent of mp3 players and such like, plus expanded expansions, I took it upon myself to become my own record producer extraordinaire.
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