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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Expat@22   (Member)

I was somewhat deflated by what appears to me to be a trope now more often being used in Science Fiction and Science Fantasy (of which I have been an afficiando for week over 50 years), to the effect that the Earth has been destroyed by humans and that we now have a privileged group who are able to escape said destruction. As two examples, Avatar in film and Children of Time in novel form.

I find this starting point to be defeatist and depressing to say the least, particularly since I am quite heavily involved in particular conservation fund raising efforts.


FYI, if you see the original pilot for LOST IN SPACE, the reason for the mission was due to the fact that Earth was suffering from massive overpopulation and we need to go to third planet in the Alpha Centauri star system to establish a colony so that other Earth people can settle there.

So the basic idea has been part of the show for since the very start.

Ford A. Thaxton


True! This trope has been around for some time but in less dominating form. Such books as A Canticle for Leibowitz IIRC were along those lines. I was merely hoping for something a little different as a starting point.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

It would be super cool -- and super unlikely -- if they got Williams himself to redo/re-record the theme.



A cool new starting point might have been that Earth is in danger from destruction (fil in your own blank; asteroids, the sun, what ever) and are cast are tasked with finding a new world for human kind of live on, but they get lost in space. Mean while, the clock is ticking down (maybe five years or something) until it'll be too late to save the Earth, so they have to try and get un-lost.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, that's basically the plot of INTERSTELLAR.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

Personally, I'm optimistic. The teaser was a bit generic, but it gets the job done. I appreciated the short use of the old theme at the end.


And, apparently, Dr. Smith is a woman.
(But I'll bet that no one will be allowed to criticize the change.)


Well, I'd at least hope that anyone who does waits until they can sample the show and see what they think of the character's portrayal. Parker Posey is apparently playing Dr. Smith, and personally I'd be hard-pressed to think of many performers better able to play a combination of neurotic and creepy.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 8:26 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Lennertz has not impressed me at all in the last five years or so but hey it could happen. Though I'm sure instead of being original he will be in full Williams' pastiche mode doing his best to sound like it, if Netflix will actually set it up for that. Almost none of their TV shows have had decent music except for Godless.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Lennertz has not impressed me at all in the last five years or so but hey it could happen. Though I'm sure instead of being original he will be in full Williams' pastiche mode doing his best to sound like it, if Netflix will actually set it up for that. Almost none of their TV shows have had decent music except for Godless.

My understanding is that the music was recorded in London with a fairly large orchestra.

I know that Mr. Lennertz is a huge John Williams fan, so I'm looking forward to hearing what he has come up with.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

That's the third season theme correct? Playing it again intrigued by the Jupiter 2 design. Looks roundish like the original, but with the Space Shuttle esthetics. Tiles and reaction control thrusters.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2018 - 11:20 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

That's the third season theme correct? Playing it again intrigued by the Jupiter 2 design. Looks roundish like the original, but with the Space Shuttle esthetics. Tiles and reaction control thrusters.

Doesn't surprise me, it takes place about 30 years from now.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I like how the Robinsons are carrying a copy of the soundtrack LP at about 37 seconds in. Is this for sale yet?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/


Rousing theme, for sure, but a little all over the place?

I also feel that the brief cameo of Williams' theme towards the end is buried under too much rambling percussion and flutes and whatnot. They could have cleaned that up a bit.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Sounds good. What's also promising is that they mention the musical language of the main titles informs the rest of the score. I think we're gonna get a fantastic soundtrack out of this.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/


Rousing theme, for sure, but a little all over the place?

I also feel that the brief cameo of Williams' theme towards the end is buried under too much rambling percussion and flutes and whatnot. They could have cleaned that up a bit.


How is it too all over the place?

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/


Rousing theme, for sure, but a little all over the place?

I also feel that the brief cameo of Williams' theme towards the end is buried under too much rambling percussion and flutes and whatnot. They could have cleaned that up a bit.


How is it too all over the place?


I like this opening theme overall, but I also feel that it lacks an overall cohesion, as if there are too many ideas being crammed into 1:30.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, what Tom said. It starts off with multiple ideas, but fails to find an overarching one. A bunch of rousing chords, really, and less of a coherent theme. And again, there's something very "off" with the orchestration when the JW theme cameo appears.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Wow. I really wasn't expecting anything like that at all. I like it.

Although, Will, it's been a long road...

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Wow. I really wasn't expecting anything like that at all. I like it.

Although, Will, it's been a long road...


I totally got a Star Trek: Enterprise vibe watching this credit sequence!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, what Tom said. It starts off with multiple ideas, but fails to find an overarching one. A bunch of rousing chords, really, and less of a coherent theme. And again, there's something very "off" with the orchestration when the JW theme cameo appears.

I'm with Thor on this one. It wasn't terrible...it was a hell of a lot better than Star Trek: Discovery, IMO. But it had similar problems, if less severe.

Lennertz's music doesn't come off as modern generic like Russo's Discovery theme. Instead it came off more like a 90s throwback, like something John Debney might have written for a TV show that decade. Then the transition to and usage of John Williams was clunky to me (though, I reiterate, not nearly as bad as the transition to Alexander Courage in the Discovery opening). I would have much preferred an updated, but faithful arrangement of the Williams theme. Something along the lines of what Brian Tyler did with Morton Stevens's Hawaii Five-O.

I'm still looking forward to sampling this reboot, but I'm not wowed by this. For comparison, the opening sequence to The Expanse blew me away from the get-go.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/


I don't hate it. But don't love it. Something sounds off.... not fully orchestra and cheap sounding.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Here is the main title:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/04/netflix-lost-in-space-opening-credits/


I don't hate it. But don't love it. Something sounds off.... not fully orchestra and cheap sounding.


It sounds like a 60 piece Live orchestra to me.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
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