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 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   spanosdm   (Member)

Am I the only person who would rather Silverstein was doing The Papers and Williams Ready Player One? smile


Of course not! This was my initial thought reaction to the news.
Spielberg was thinking of making Ready Player One for many years and I have been anxious about Wiliams's score since. Too bad he chose to do The Papers instead.
That said: a) Silvestri was a great choice and b) I feel blessed that we are getting TWO new JW scores this year, the one being for a Star Wars film!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Good that Spielberg moves around on his secondary choices until he finds another perfect fit.

Spielberg has worked with many composers, just not as director. But he is a very hands-on producer, and has worked many times with Goldsmith, Broughton, Horner, and (yes) Silvestri.

I don't think he's necessarily looking to find his next John Williams. His relationship with Williams is that of trusted colleague and friend, and if Williams could score as many movies at 85 as he could at 65, I'm sure he'd still be using him for every directorial project. But it feels like, without Williams, Spielberg is choosing individual composers for specific projects. Since "Ready Player One" is evidently steeped in '80s culture, Silvestri (who scored Spielberg-the-producer's biggest hits in that decade) is a logical choice.

Spielberg, the film music fan, can bring out the best in composers, and it will be interesting to see if that happens this time.


Was he a hands on producer with Transformers, Men in Black and Jurassic World? I'd be curious with what he thinks of Jablonsky, Elfman and Giacchino. According to the Variety article it was a scheduling conflict, if that is the real reason, that Williams cannot score this film, so I'm a bit surprised that Spielberg knowing that Williams isn't as young as he was in 1993 would have two films out in the space of four months.

It is a bittersweet moment that Williams cannot write for the score, however hopefully Silvestri can knock it out of the park. I haven't been a fan his recent thriller action scores of this A-Team/ GI Joe or Allied score. However I really enjoyed his score to the second Laura Craft film. The latter part of the score along with the music from the Mummy Returns were excellent and would fit into Indy Five if Williams was not available. I do hold out hope that if Spielberg is rotating between composers that David Arnold would get a look in rather than Giacchino, who frankly needs a rest. Arnold has been out of the game far too long now and his scores for IDA and Paul showed that he can muster the Williams magic.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Good that Spielberg moves around on his secondary choices until he finds another perfect fit.

Spielberg has worked with many composers, just not as director. But he is a very hands-on producer, and has worked many times with Goldsmith, Broughton, Horner, and (yes) Silvestri.

I don't think he's necessarily looking to find his next John Williams. His relationship with Williams is that of trusted colleague and friend, and if Williams could score as many movies at 85 as he could at 65, I'm sure he'd still be using him for every directorial project. But it feels like, without Williams, Spielberg is choosing individual composers for specific projects. Since "Ready Player One" is evidently steeped in '80s culture, Silvestri (who scored Spielberg-the-producer's biggest hits in that decade) is a logical choice.

Spielberg, the film music fan, can bring out the best in composers, and it will be interesting to see if that happens this time.


Was he a hands on producer with Transformers, Men in Black and Jurassic World? I'd be curious with what he thinks of Jablonsky, Elfman and Giacchino. According to the Variety article it was a scheduling conflict, if that is the real reason, that Williams cannot score this film, so I'm a bit surprised that Spielberg knowing that Williams isn't as young as he was in 1993 would have two films out in the space of four months.

It is a bittersweet moment that Williams cannot write for the score, however hopefully Silvestri can knock it out of the park. I haven't been a fan his recent thriller action scores of this A-Team/ GI Joe or Allied score. However I really enjoyed his score to the second Laura Craft film. The latter part of the score along with the music from the Mummy Returns were excellent and would fit into Indy Five if Williams was not available. I do hold out hope that if Spielberg is rotating between composers that David Arnold would get a look in rather than Giacchino, who frankly needs a rest. Arnold has been out of the game far too long now and his scores for IDA and Paul showed that he can muster the Williams magic.


surprised Spielberg did not choose Thomas Newman (really liked Bridge of Spies) but I love Silvestri's music (Back to the Future). Anyway I am happy that John Williams is doing "The Papers" as I loved his score to Lincoln.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Good that Spielberg moves around on his secondary choices until he finds another perfect fit.

Spielberg has worked with many composers, just not as director. But he is a very hands-on producer, and has worked many times with Goldsmith, Broughton, Horner, and (yes) Silvestri.

I don't think he's necessarily looking to find his next John Williams. His relationship with Williams is that of trusted colleague and friend, and if Williams could score as many movies at 85 as he could at 65, I'm sure he'd still be using him for every directorial project. But it feels like, without Williams, Spielberg is choosing individual composers for specific projects. Since "Ready Player One" is evidently steeped in '80s culture, Silvestri (who scored Spielberg-the-producer's biggest hits in that decade) is a logical choice.

Spielberg, the film music fan, can bring out the best in composers, and it will be interesting to see if that happens this time.


Was he a hands on producer with Transformers, Men in Black and Jurassic World? I'd be curious with what he thinks of Jablonsky, Elfman and Giacchino. According to the Variety article it was a scheduling conflict, if that is the real reason, that Williams cannot score this film, so I'm a bit surprised that Spielberg knowing that Williams isn't as young as he was in 1993 would have two films out in the space of four months.

It is a bittersweet moment that Williams cannot write for the score, however hopefully Silvestri can knock it out of the park. I haven't been a fan his recent thriller action scores of this A-Team/ GI Joe or Allied score. However I really enjoyed his score to the second Laura Craft film. The latter part of the score along with the music from the Mummy Returns were excellent and would fit into Indy Five if Williams was not available. I do hold out hope that if Spielberg is rotating between composers that David Arnold would get a look in rather than Giacchino, who frankly needs a rest. Arnold has been out of the game far too long now and his scores for IDA and Paul showed that he can muster the Williams magic.


David Arnold scores for IDA and Paul. Could you be more specific. Cant find such scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

Good that Spielberg moves around on his secondary choices until he finds another perfect fit.

Spielberg has worked with many composers, just not as director. But he is a very hands-on producer, and has worked many times with Goldsmith, Broughton, Horner, and (yes) Silvestri.

I don't think he's necessarily looking to find his next John Williams. His relationship with Williams is that of trusted colleague and friend, and if Williams could score as many movies at 85 as he could at 65, I'm sure he'd still be using him for every directorial project. But it feels like, without Williams, Spielberg is choosing individual composers for specific projects. Since "Ready Player One" is evidently steeped in '80s culture, Silvestri (who scored Spielberg-the-producer's biggest hits in that decade) is a logical choice.

Spielberg, the film music fan, can bring out the best in composers, and it will be interesting to see if that happens this time.



This is true...Jerry Goldsmith said it in an interview..that Spielberg was there note for note when scoring Poltergeist and Twilight Zone. That he knows what he is looking for.

And It is not like Spielberg does not know who these composers are. Spielberg is truly a master of movie music and getting the composers, Williams and Goldsmith and Newman, and Silvestri...to that right magical moment.
The Papers is Oscar Bait...written all over it. BET!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

David Arnold scores for IDA and Paul. Could you be more specific. Cant find such scores.

David Arnold PAUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8GuPTSZZCM&list=PLDmdF1ma6cZol2pKg_ayj978ALj4pUyQd&index=19

IDA should have been ID4. That's the abbreviation for Independence Day: https://www.google.cz/search?q=id4&oq=id4&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l4j0.2130j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Here is the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3OTDuRrXk

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

What is in that magical Silvestri wine???

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Not sure if you've all read Ready Player One - but one of the prominent things in the book is the main character's use of the delorean from Back to the Future as his mode of transportation, and for me, no one scores a flying delorean better than Silvestri. I think it's a perfect fit, the story is basically a John Hughes Science Fiction film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

David Arnold scores for IDA and Paul. Could you be more specific. Cant find such scores.

David Arnold PAUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8GuPTSZZCM&list=PLDmdF1ma6cZol2pKg_ayj978ALj4pUyQd&index=19

IDA should have been ID4. That's the abbreviation for Independence Day: https://www.google.cz/search?q=id4&oq=id4&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l4j0.2130j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Here is the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3OTDuRrXk

Thanks. ID4 makes more sense. And I agree with you on Paul. Forgot about it. Will get it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

It is interesting that, out of the two films, Williams is doing The Papers because on the face of it, it sounds like one of the least musical projects of his career but of course it will all depend on Spielberg's interpretation where Williams can go with it. Whatever the case, I'm glad right now he is doing this film to balance out the big Star Wars film scores we are going to get in the next few years. It is also a historical event that interests me greatly and there is the potential for something special I'm hoping.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Apparently my phone thought Silvestri was my attempt to write Silverstein. Thanks, autocorrect.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

David Arnold scores for IDA and Paul. Could you be more specific. Cant find such scores.

David Arnold PAUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8GuPTSZZCM&list=PLDmdF1ma6cZol2pKg_ayj978ALj4pUyQd&index=19

IDA should have been ID4. That's the abbreviation for Independence Day: https://www.google.cz/search?q=id4&oq=id4&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l4j0.2130j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Here is the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3OTDuRrXk


Thanks. ID4 makes more sense. And I agree with you on Paul. Forgot about it. Will get it.

No problem. I forgot to mention Stargate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkK-AoClqvI Hopefully David Newman gets a look in as well, particularly for a drama film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

In the book of Ready Player One...was there not a lot attention paid to Spielberg's Films of the 80's? I believe that Spielberg took that aspect out of the screenplay.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

First of all, I'm sorry to hear that Williams won't do RPO. I had hoped for something pulsating in the style of MINORITY REPORT, perhaps (or at least PRESUMED INNOCENT, which isnt' too bad). I'm glad that he's doing THE PAPERS (any new Williams is appreciated), but I'm not excited about the project at all, and I can kinda already hear the score in my mind. Not the biggest canvas, nor the greatest opportunity for a fine textural score. I was far more excited for Williams' RPO than Williams' THE PAPERS.

All that being said, I'm curious about what Silvestri can deliver. I've not read the book, but something tells me "retro electronics" here. Silvestri was great with electronics in the 80s, and he proved that he still has that touch with certain tracks in the COSMOS soundtrack. So if he can delve into some of that, I'd be a happy camper.

Time will tell!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Was he a hands on producer with Transformers, Men in Black and Jurassic World? I'd be curious with what he thinks of Jablonsky, Elfman and Giacchino. According to the Variety article it was a scheduling conflict, if that is the real reason, that Williams cannot score this film, so I'm a bit surprised that Spielberg knowing that Williams isn't as young as he was in 1993 would have two films out in the space of four months.

Most of the people I know who worked with Spielberg did it during the pre-DreamWorks days. By the time Spielberg was a producer on "Transformers," it was a more corporate situation, and he had partners (Jeffrey Katzenberg was a force), so I don't know if he was as hands-on as he was during the earlier Amblin days (and before).

I see no reason not to believe the scheduling conflict. Williams has two films coming out a week apart in December. Another one for March would be a lot.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Two quick thoughts:

1) A lot of people seem to feel they know exactly what approach both Spielberg and Williams will take with both of these films, based on pretty much nothing.

2) It wasn't so long ago that people around these parts were somehow convinced that Spielberg's eventual replacement for Williams would be Hans Zimmer. Remember that?

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

2) It wasn't so long ago that people around these parts were somehow convinced that Spielberg's eventual replacement for Williams would be Hans Zimmer. Remember that?

I see your thought and raise you another: Maybe Zimmer was his choice, but Zimmer either was too busy or turned it down? Seems you're also pulling at nothing straws. ;-)

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

Am I the only person who would rather Silverstein was doing The Papers and Williams Ready Player One? smile

Yavar


In a perfect world we could somehow hear the scores from both composers... for both films. Such riches! smile

And it is difficult to know which composer might be the better fit for the film. Before The Fellowship of the Ring was released I don't think anyone would have thought of Howard Shore as being a smart choice.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

And it is difficult to know which composer might be the better fit for the film. Before The Fellowship of the Ring was released I don't think anyone would have thought of Howard Shore as being a smart choice.

The Fly and Looking for Richard and a few others made some of us think it was an ingenious choice at the time.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2017 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I just generally prefer Silvestri in more intimate mode.

Yavar

 
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