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The cover is great, and Kriterland's website has a larger version of the cover than was used in the main post here, BTW:
http://www.kritzerland.com/rio_conchos.htm
I'm not sure why Bruce always posts small versions of the covers in the main posts of his threads here instead of the nice 600x600 ones...
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Can I ask a simple question? With what modern technology can someone produce a stereo restoration of a score recorded in mono? And if the recording was stereo in the first place, why did FSM release a mono version of a score recorded in stereo. Just asking before I buy my fourth release of that score.
Presumably because the mono tapes or tracks or whatever were in okay shape while the stereo were in poor shape, but now they've been able to go back to the original elements and remix the stereo presentation, is what it sounds like.
Yes, and as Bruce pointed out, 17 minutes of the score were presented in stereo at the end of the FSM release.
Personally I'd love to see (hear) what restorations Mike could do of two other early FSM titles: Prince Valiant and Prince of Foxes...
Yavar
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And The Towering Inferno!!
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I thought for sure after LLL issued an expanded Poseidon Adventure in 2010 that The Towering Inferno was bound to come along next, and 4 years later we still don't have it!
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Can I ask a simple question? With what modern technology can someone produce a stereo restoration of a score recorded in mono? And if the recording was stereo in the first place, why did FSM release a mono version of a score recorded in stereo. Just asking before I buy my fourth release of that score.
Presumably because the mono tapes or tracks or whatever were in okay shape while the stereo were in poor shape, but now they've been able to go back to the original elements and remix the stereo presentation, is what it sounds like.
Correct. In 2000, the stereo tracks, save for what they included, were not salvageable - in 2014 they were. Just as two years ago there was no way to release A Place in the Sun or It's a Wonderful Life and today there was.
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This is the kind of effort it will take to convince soundtrack aficionados living in poverty to keep deferring food in favor of audio.
I'll be thanking Bruce and Mike as my ears get fed and my stomach rumbles.
Keep it up, guys!
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I just did a comparison of Bruce's new mp3 of The River with my ipod's 256k of the Rio Conchos release. (This is one of Goldsmith's essential tracks in all of his music, if you ask me.)
Well, when you're right, you're right. This sounds so much better it made me realize I didn't listen much over the years to the FSM release just because of compromised sound.
Get this one before it's gone, partner.
And see the film - it's worth watching, and re-watching, even with Tony Franciosa's comic-opera bandito (not to mention Vito Scotti's even comic-operer bandito).
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Yes, Joan: I think this is one of the reasons so many of us love Goldsmith so much. He would take these little, little ideas and work them endlessly through a score. Especially true of Westerns, where for each section of traveling music he would create a new variation of this thematic material for that point in the score. (La La Land's expanded Bad Girls is another great example of this.)
I'm not sure it's really that necessary for cinematic reasons (meaning I don't much notice it missing in scores that don't work this hard), but it sure makes for great stand-alone listening.
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Oct 6, 2014 - 12:16 PM
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Bruce.....I have ordered the RIO CONCHOS and am looking forward to it.
However, I had to order from SAE.....Internet Explorer would not allow me to access the order buttons on your site and would not display my cart at all. A box popped up with something about incomplete security issues and the need for an upgraded security "seal" as I recall---don't remember the exact wording.
Since major hackings of late on the internet in general, I've noticed this inaccessibility on a number of websites---ones that I normally order from with no problem.
SAE appears to have gone through the same security issues and are in the process of upgrading their security (or have just finished) and I had no problem there this time---although I DID awhile back.
I don't know whether this is simply a current Internet Explorer issue, or whether there is an upgrade going on across the web which you may want to look into for your own site. I've certainly had no problems buying online from Kritzerland before.
I'm sorry I couldn't get it from you, but I didn't want to lose out on this apparently wonderful re-do. I'll try again on your next release.
[PS......Kidnap Michael Matessino, lock him in a room, and don't let him out until he fixes ALL the problematic original scoring tapes that we need for new releases!!! Bring him a nice soft pillow and some bedding, and, of course, meals---Cheerios for breakfast, perhaps a nice tunafish sandwich for lunch, and a good evening meal so that he'll have the energy to do the job properly. On the other hand, if you bring food that isn't so good, he may want to labor faster to get out of there, and that might work too......  ]
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Reminds me that there were some issues with "wow" on the FSM releases of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES and especially ESCAPE FROM....
Oh my god yes, the best track on Escape ("The Labor Continues") is a mag-wow disaster.
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Oct 6, 2014 - 12:27 PM
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CinemaScope
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I just did a comparison of Bruce's new mp3 of The River with my ipod's 256k of the Rio Conchos release. (This is one of Goldsmith's essential tracks in all of his music, if you ask me.)
Well, when you're right, you're right. This sounds so much better it made me realize I didn't listen much over the years to the FSM release just because of compromised sound.
Get this one before it's gone, partner.
And see the film - it's worth watching, and re-watching, even with Tony Franciosa's comic-opera bandito (not to mention Vito Scotti's even comic-operer bandito).
I love stereo, being a headphones listener, but I always used to listen to the mono tracks, as the stereo ones didn't sound so hot, but as I posted, it's not just the stereo, but the re-master, the clips sound so good.
Tony Franciosa's turn as a Mexican is over the top, but it works for me, he really goes for it, & I think he brings it off.
Is Vito Scotti the bandito with the mouthful of really bad teeth in that scene very much like the one in The Professionals 1966?
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