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 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

It may be that I've just met more Goldsmith fans that fans of other composers (mainly during my time serving on the Goldsmith Society committee) but I have to agree there is a very high level of unnecessary insecurity.

I remember one particular fan I met who just totally berated me for daring to mention that I found Goldsmith as a person a bit grumpy and intolerant of film music buffs. The conversation became even more ludicrous when I transpired that, unlike me, this guy had never met Goldsmith.

That said, I've had a few run-ins with John Barry fans who have basically said that I know nothing about movie music because I don't like Barry's work. And they were being serious!


This kind of blind fanaticism is fairly common. Not just film music fans but fans of Star Trek, Star Wars, model railroading or quilting for that matter. Any subject where people loose objectivity and take things personally.

I have over 200 Goldsmith cds so I suppose that makes me a huge Goldsmith fan. But I'm always quick to point out that not everything Jerry wrote was a masterpiece.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"Do you think this copy of Love Field makes me look fat?"
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Of course not. You look lovely.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Do you think this copy of Love Field makes me look fat?

Gee, I dunno... I mean, what I want to say is that... it's not that it... not that you think I wanted to imply there is... no, that's not it, but it could be if it weren't... so to speak in a way... don't get me wrong though, ok, I didn't want to hurt your feelings, I'm just sayin'.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

I don't know. But I LOVE sociological topics like this -- going to the core of who we are and what we do! META-TOPICS FOR THE WIN!

Did you mean sociological or did you leave out part of the word sociopathological?

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Do you think this copy of Love Field makes me look fat?

Gee, I dunno... I mean, what I want to say is that... it's not that it... not that you think I wanted to imply there is... no, that's not it, but it could be if it weren't... so to speak in a way... don't get me wrong though, ok, I didn't want to hurt your feelings, I'm just sayin'.


Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

Nice.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

Nice.


I think you are both in "Hot Water."

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

Nice.


I think you are both in "Hot Water."


Stop "Pretending." This is about Love Field exclusively, The Posters......

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

Nice.


I think you are both in "Hot Water."


Stop "Pretending." This is about Love Field exclusively, The Posters......


I should know better than to try to jump into this kind of thing. I forget we're not alone here.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Haha, this is so horrible.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

No Bait, Just Debate!
No Bait, Just Debate!
No Bait, Just Debate!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I knew one Goldsmith fan who would get upset if you said anything negative about the films Goldsmith scored (not the scores, but the films themselves), as though it was somehow a reflection on Goldsmith's judgment (or lack of it) that he would agree to score a bad film. So he would go out of his way to defend duds like The Swarm or S*P*Y*S because if Jerry scored it, it must be good.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

I knew one Goldsmith fan who would get upset if you said anything negative about the films Goldsmith scored (not the scores, but the films themselves), as though it was somehow a reflection on Goldsmith's judgment (or lack of it) that he would agree to score a bad film. So he would go out of his way to defend duds like The Swarm or S*P*Y*S because if Jerry scored it, it must be good.

Fool! There are no bad films scored by Goldsmith. Goldsmith is the Chuck Norris of film scoring. He kicks a bad film's ass so hard that it comes out of the scoring process shining like gold.

Now I must return to the Cult of Jerry where we are preparing to ritually sacrifice a Hans Zimmer fan.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)



Now I must return to the Cult of Jerry where we are preparing to ritually sacrifice a Hans Zimmer fan.

Chris


Are there any left?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I used to think, maybe it was because, while he wrote scores just as good (and sometimes better) than his more World Famous contemporaries (composers like John Williams, John Barry, Ennio Morricone, Henry Mancini - who achieved a kind of cross-over fame and acceptance) but received far less recognition, could it be that 'champion the underdog' spirit that can come to the fore?
But there are many other film composers who toiled away for years, scoring projects beneath their worth and not getting the status they deserved (John Scott, Jerry Fielding, Basil Poledouris to name a few), who I would put in the same boat.
I don't see the same degree of interest or passion from their fans in comparison to some Goldsmith aficionados.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Looks like you're about to have a "Roadside Incident," Zwar.

Nice.


I think you are both in "Hot Water."


Stop "Pretending." This is about Love Field exclusively, The Posters......


I should know better than to try to jump into this kind of thing. I forget we're not alone here.


I won't put up with this kind of character Assassination.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

"Are Goldsmith Fans the Most Insecure of Film Music Fans?"


Yes, they are!

End of topic.

razz

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Don't worry, Goldsmith fans, we don't think you're paranoid. You're just imagining it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I used to think, maybe it was because, while he wrote scores just as good (and sometimes better) than his more World Famous contemporaries (composers like John Williams, John Barry, Ennio Morricone, Henry Mancini - who achieved a kind of cross-over fame and acceptance) but received far less recognition, could it be that 'champion the underdog' spirit that can come to the fore?

Good point. What would be Goldsmith's best known piece? I had a conversation with a few folks in work recently and they were all familiar with themes or songs composed by those you mention, but none had ever heard of Goldsmith. A couple vaguely remembered 'scary' music in The Omen but that was about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2014 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Why should they be insecure? Goldsmith releases are happening all over the place, lots of expansions and reissues.

Barry fans on the other hand... just sayin'.

big grin

 
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