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 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)


I'm just glad he wasn't born in 1899 ... smile

Mitch


big grin

Although it would be easier to choose 99 than 28...


mmm... apart from the typing/copying.

And then there'd still be the 100th, 101st ... whether to shuffle others out in order to include one or both ... Oh well.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Not in any order, any more than I could rank my kids...

Once upon a time in the west
The good, the bad and the ugly
The battle of Algiers
The Legend of 1900
Sacco and Vanzetti
The red tent
The humanoid

Revolver
A story of love and the underworld
Nostromo
The blue-eyed bandit
La Califfa
Ripley's Game
Mission to Mars

A Professional Gun
Sonny and Jed
A fistful of dynamite
Drammi Gotici
Hamlet
Symphony for Richard III
Exorcist 2 the heretic

The Thing
I... come icaro
Moses the Lawgiver
Frantic
Bugsy
Casualties of War
The Sicilian Clan

And there are dozens more worth including in any list.



 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.


Let's start with this one:



The score I'd take with me to the proverbial desert island!

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Zambra Alex   (Member)

Hard to choose from such fantastic scores, yet among them the ones play most:
1. Marco Polo
2. Casualties of war
3. The Sicilian Clan
4. Citta Violenta
5. Maddalena
6. Red Sonja
7. Two mules for sister Sarah
8. Duck you Sucker
9. Sacco & Vanzetti
10. Once upon a time in America
11. The Untouchables
12. The Scarlet and the Black (LP only)
13. Holocaust 2000
14. Moses
15. Le Professionel
16. Paura sulla citta
17. Revolver
18. Ucellacci Ucellini
19. The Untouchables
And all the rest after that.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

...
A story of love and the underworld
....


Okay, you've got me ...

Neither IMDb or ChiMai tell me what this one is ...

Can you give me a clue?

Cheers,

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.


Let's start with this one:



The score I'd take with me to the proverbial desert island!


A great start indeed, and the one that immediately came to mind.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Not an easy task in no set order

Vergogna Schifosi
Danger Diabolik
Svegliati e Uccidi
Il Clan Dei Siciliani
Il Maestro e Margherita
Il Giocattolo
Dedicato Al Mare Egeo
La Cosa Buffa
Una Lucertola Con La Pelle Di Donna
La Tarantola Dal Ventre Nero
La Corta Notte Delle Bambole Di Vetro
Il Diavolo Nel Cervello
Fatti Di Gente Perbene
I ... Come Icaro
Revolver
Il Prigioniero
Spasmo
Addio Fratello Crudele
L'Uccello Dalle Piume Di Cristallo
Giornata Nera Per L'Ariete
La Resa Dei Conti
Two Mules For Sister Sara
Il Grande Silenzio
For A Few Dollars More
Once Upon A Time In The West
Il Tepepa

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.

If you exclude some of his Western scores which can argued as being “experimental” with their wild electric guitars, strange vocal sounds, etc….I would suggest the following:

1) The Mission
2) The Untouchables
3) Orca
4) Allonsanfan
5) Cinema Paradiso
6) Days of Heaven
7) Mission to Mars
8) Marco Polo
9) Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
10) Sahara

Some of these were in my top 28, but I strongly favor his wilder Western style, so a number of these excellent scores just missed the 28.
A couple of the Western scores are largely instrumental, like DUCK YOU SUCKER and TEPEPA, so you might find them enjoyable as they are infused with many lovely orchestral melodies and a bit less of the “experimental” stuff you dislike.

Some other traditional orchestral scores which I rank a bit lower than these 10, others may rank as essential…it’s all a matter of personal taste…but they are damn fine scores:
HAMLET, IN THE LINE OF FIRE, ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, THE ISLAND, LOLITA, MADDALENA.
And many others.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Thanks for the suggestions smile I now have some to search out.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

Thanks for the suggestions smile I now have some to search out.

I think you would really enjoy Cefalonia. I'm surprised that I was the only one to mention this immensely beautiful score.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.

Over the years many hardcore traditionalists (whatever that is) have told me scores like these have been attractive:

I PROMESSI SPOSI
CANON INVERSO
THE RED TENT
METELLO
LA CALIFFA
STANNO TUTTI BENE
THE MISSION
ADDIO FRATELLO CRUDELE
IL MAESTRO E MARGHERITA
ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA
RED SONJA
NOVECENTO

It depends on where you draw the line on experimental. For me a piece like THE MERCENARY has a symphonic grandeur to it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJMNo8r8Xo

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)



There is one single title I wish to get:
Two Mules For Sister Sara (1970)
I cherish the sound of the mule followed by the female chorus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewGlmICYx-g

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I'm really digging the trumpet parts in Mission to Mars. What scores are closer to this? The synths are surprisingly not distracting.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)


A Fistful Of Dynamite [my favourite!]
1900
Once Upon A Time In America
The Untouchables
Danger Diabolik
Face To Face
The Big Silence
Once Upon A Time In The West
The Good The Bad And The Ugly
The Legend of 1900
Wolf
The Thing
Short Night Of Glass Dolls
The Mission
Everybody’s Fine
Hundra
My Name Is Nobody
Cinema Paradiso
Malena
The Mercenary
The Big Silence
Four Flies On Grey Velvet
Exorcist 2
Casualties Of War
In The Line Of Fire
U-Turn
Desert Of The Tartars
A Lizard In A Woman’s Skin

One of my favourite composers, but the 50 or so CDs I have doesn’t really scratch the surface, and I can’t afford them all!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

...
A story of love and the underworld
....


Okay, you've got me ...

Neither IMDb or ChiMai tell me what this one is ...

Can you give me a clue?

Cheers,

Mitch



Never thought of you as clueless, Mitch...!

Okay, hands up - I meant Storie di Vita e Malavita, which obviously doesn't translate into the title I gave! I used the English titles by and large as I was naming them off the top of my head and didn't want to embarrass myself - which I did anyway. I always think of it as Love and the Underworld for reasons that I forget.

However, it did me a favour ultimately, as I listened to it on the way back from a business trip to Newcastle this afternoon and it reminded me how good it is. Well worth inclusion in the 28.

To be fair, though, very few of the titles mentioned throughout this thread aren't.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

...
A story of love and the underworld
....


Okay, you've got me ...

Neither IMDb or ChiMai tell me what this one is ...

Can you give me a clue?

Cheers,

Mitch



Never thought of you as clueless, Mitch...!

Okay, hands up - I meant Storie di Vita e Malavita, which obviously doesn't translate into the title I gave! I used the English titles by and large as I was naming them off the top of my head and didn't want to embarrass myself - which I did anyway. I always think of it as Love and the Underworld for reasons that I forget.

However, it did me a favour ultimately, as I listened to it on the way back from a business trip to Newcastle this afternoon and it reminded me how good it is. Well worth inclusion in the 28.

To be fair, though, very few of the titles mentioned throughout this thread aren't.

Chris


Thanks for the answer, Chris ... easy when you know. It's English title, though, appears to be The (Teenage) Prostitution Racket which does not help!

Due to my non-stop buying of CDs, I started, last year, noting when I play albums, scores, symphonies et al. and according to said listings ... this score hasn't been aired for at least five months. Too late this evening (NP: Symphonic Dances - Rachmaninov - Ashkenazy/RCO) but perhaps tomorrow.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2014 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


I meant Storie di Vita e Malavita, which obviously doesn't translate into the title I gave! I used the English titles by and large as I was naming them off the top of my head and didn't want to embarrass myself - which I did anyway. I always think of it as Love and the Underworld for reasons that I forget.

Thanks for the answer, Chris ... easy when you know. It's English title, though, appears to be The (Teenage) Prostitution Racket which does not help!

Mitch



Aha! After literally some searching, I found that MSV's magnificent Morricone discography - you know, the hardback ring binder one - gives various alternate titles to Storie di Vita e Malavita including (drum roll) Story of Love and the Underworld.

Vindication, like ginger sponge and custard, has a swe-e-e-e-e-t taste!

Chris


(For the record, I first encountered the main theme on the glorious 2-disc LP "I Film Della Violenza", and it also appears on the CD of "Endless Game". Why "Violenza" hasn't ever been released on CD is a perplexing mystery, right up there with grapefruit & kiwi washing up liquid and the continuing popularity of Eamonn Holmes.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2014 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Thanks for the clarification. Regretfully I do not know the MSV publication to which you refer and most of my research (read: information) stems from IMDb and ChiMai.

Anyhow, I gave the score a play this morning - it has been a while - and yes, the Malavita theme (tr.7) is particularly beautiful. But the score, as a whole, doesn't creep into my Top 28.

Query solved.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2014 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Anyone able to provide a list of his 10 best traditional orchestral scores if there are that many? I'm not a fond of his more experimental scores from what I've heard.


Let's start with this one:



The score I'd take with me to the proverbial desert island!


A great start indeed, and the one that immediately came to mind.


Agree here as well. One of my favourite ever films and scores. My CD is close to being worn out...!

 
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