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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

I'm a soundtrack lover and collector.
I'm not interessed in re-recordings.
They could be better than the original, that doesn't matter to me... I'm searching ONLY for the music I have hear on TV or in the movies.
Also usually re-recordings are cheap, whereas this new album is much more expensive than an original score album. If You have money to waste, buy it.
I prefer to use my money to reward those who publish original scores albums.
This is my humble opinion.
Maybe Am I the only one, on this board, who cares only the original version of the scores?...
Should I write on this board only "GREAT! NICE! AWESOME!"??
Is this a discussion board, or DisneyLand board?


It's a discussion board, hence the posting of contrary opinions. There's absolutely no need to emulate the bottom feeders of the internet by reducing that discussion to childish taunts. Being positive for a project does not mean its "DisneyLand" :-)

On the whole, I don't like re-recordings. I've bought some out of curiousity, like a recent Blade Runner re-recording, but they're not for me...normally. I support the Airwolf Themes project because there's nothing else out there, apart from rubbishy rips of the existing DVD audio. If you like that sort of thing, then great.
With Airwolf Themes, the project had the initial input from Sylvester Levay. he contributed a short disc of material for the first Volume. Sadly, not on this Volume but I understand he has been consulted and approved. The recordings are as close as anyone will get to an official release. Yes, the 2-CD set might appear expensive but a digital download will follow that will be at a reasonable price.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

Multiple posting issues again. apologies

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   capracorn   (Member)

Not the original recordings. Not interesting...

Well, then you clearly haven't heard the re-recordings whch are of the highest quality possible.


Some of us only like original recordings and I am one that just passes on most electronic re-recordings. Even if this was the original recording I would pass at $75.00 for 2 CDs. That price is just too high.


The steep price makes you wonder if your fear comes thrue, that once you bought it, that after a short period of time Intrada, lalaland, varese or another label comes along with the original soundtrack release.

Nobody is going to pass on that one because they already have a rerecording release

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

$75 for a re-recording?? Uh, yeah, no. Good luck with not offering it as an affordable download immediately too. The second this gets into people's hands it'll start showing up online everywhere (as did the first one) for people to grab....and for free. Someone isn't very savvy with their marketing.

Well, I would say there is a big difference between a high quality 2CD-set and mp3 files.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Not the original recordings. Not interesting...

Well, then you clearly haven't heard the re-recordings whch are of the highest quality possible.


Some of us only like original recordings and I am one that just passes on most electronic re-recordings. Even if this was the original recording I would pass at $75.00 for 2 CDs. That price is just too high.


I have to agree.

If it was the original recordings then maybe that type of price could be justified, but for a fan made remake it's a bit out touch with modern day pricing structures.

For $75 you would maybe expect a cd, a vinyl, a lossless download, and some other merchandise.

Is the high price because of licensing costs owed to universal?


I don't know. Maybe because they have been working on it for 15 years?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2014 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Yes, I would think a lot of work has gone into it over the last few years (certainly by reading the notes on the webpage for the release and looking at the equipment that has been used etc). I enjoyed the first CD set a lot (like First Breath, I can't believe how much time has passed since....) so am quite happy to put an order in for this one.

I'm not so happy with the postage costs to England though. I mean, its only Ireland. It seems way too high. Presumably its being sent in a gold slipcase or something (and I don't really care about recorded delivery). Oh well.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Dan J. Schulte   (Member)

$75 for a re-recording?? Uh, yeah, no. Good luck with not offering it as an affordable download immediately too. The second this gets into people's hands it'll start showing up online everywhere (as did the first one) for people to grab....and for free. Someone isn't very savvy with their marketing.

Well, I would say there is a big difference between a high quality 2CD-set and mp3 files.


True...one is in physical form, the other is in intangible digital form, however both are listenable with equal sound quality IMO.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

I received my copy on Saturday and I find it hard not to post about it like a rabid fan. Leaving the discussion on pricing alone for the most part, I have to say that it’s worth it to me, for the track PILOT-Orchestral Suite, alone. One particular scene that stayed with me, when I was young, was the finale scene from the movie length premiere. By this I mean the final battle and hunt for the bad guy. To put it in context, Hawk, the hero, finds the woman that he’s fallen for, dying in the desert. He sees the tracks of a vehicle going out into the distance and sets out to hunt down the killer. What entails is getting through a barrage of anti-air missiles and helicopters. The score that underpins all this was hugely memorable and Jan Michal Suzlew nails that track.

There are many tracks on it that take me back to 1984-6, when Airwolf was on the air. It complements the previous release, nicely. My only criticism is, I’d have liked more score tracks than theme tracks. The Airwolf main theme is one of the best themes out there but I’m not sure it needed one full CD. A minor thing as the CD is so good.

To anyone that enjoyed the TV show’s music, back in the day, I say “buy it”. Either wait for the MP3 files to become available, or buy the CDs.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

No thanks. This guy has been exploiting this property for years. He even went as far as forcing a real life helicopter pilot to take down 1 video the guy had featuring the original Airwolf theme playing as he took off. Seriously.

Plus, $76 for what is essentially elevator muzak and not the original material. Pass.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

The Customs Inspection notice did make me laugh.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2014 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   mastersofuniverse   (Member)

Is there any particular reason why the original Levay mono recordings cannot be released?

Were they destroyed or something? Or is it because Universal do not wish to release it?


 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2014 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I just received my copy of the 2CD. Booklet is great, including an interview with Udi Harpaz who gives some interesting info. Harpaz' agent tried to get him into Miami Vice, "I made a demo and everybody loved it but then what's-his-name decided to stay on and there was no opening".

So Udi didn't even remember Jan Hammer's name. :-D

Looking forward to listen to the album.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Just listened through disc 1, which features TWENTY-TWO versions (SEVENTY-FOUR minutes) of the main theme! Seriously. Yes, it's a good theme, but this is actually rather dull.

I really hope disc 2 is better. After all I paid 50 euro for this.

Does anyone agree?

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I listened to disc 2, and that one is brilliant! Up there with Miami Vice as the best TV scoring of the 80s, and even better than Cairns' disc on the original 1999 set.

Almost worth the price alone. :-D

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Just listened through disc 1, which features TWENTY-TWO versions (SEVENTY-FOUR minutes) of the main theme! Seriously. Yes, it's a good theme, but this is actually rather dull.

I really hope disc 2 is better. After all I paid 50 euro for this.

Does anyone agree?



Geez, 22 versions of the theme? They gotta be kidding. That seems kind of ... umm ... idiotic big grin

The main theme is good... not brilliant. Nothing that needs 22 versions. Is it actually 22 versions of the theme - the theme over and over again - or, music cues that feature the theme? Checking the samples on the website it isn't really clear.

I bought the original when it came up on iTunes, never having seen the show or heard the music before. It was good... not great. After hearing the original set, I have to say the mania over the music is baffling. Some of it had the sound that gives synth scores a bad name. Some of it had a real Casio vibe razz

The bright side is, if you have second thoughts you can probably unload it the whole thing on Ebay and make most of your money back.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Just listened through disc 1, which features TWENTY-TWO versions (SEVENTY-FOUR minutes) of the main theme! Seriously. Yes, it's a good theme, but this is actually rather dull.

I really hope disc 2 is better. After all I paid 50 euro for this.

Does anyone agree?



Geez, 22 versions of the theme? They gotta be kidding. That seems kind of ... umm ... idiotic big grin

The main theme is good... not brilliant. Nothing that needs 22 versions. Is it actually 22 versions of the theme - the theme over and over again - or, music cues that feature the theme? Checking the samples on the website it isn't really clear.

I bought the original when it came up on iTunes, never having seen the show or heard the music before. It was good... not great. After hearing the original set, I have to say the mania over the music is baffling. Some of it had the sound that gives synth scores a bad name. Some of it had a real Casio vibe razz

The bright side is, if you have second thoughts you can probably unload it the whole thing on Ebay and make most of your money back.


It's both, many versions of the theme, AND music cues that feature the theme. They last from 0:27 to over 6 minutes.

As I mentioned above, disc 2 on this new set is brilliant, so I would never part with it. And I don't really agree about the Casio vibe, at least not Levay's (and Harpaz's) originals. I think I still consider Levay my favorite film composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   capracorn   (Member)

Received my copy yesterday like everthing about it: the super jewel box, the artwork, the linear notes the two cd's are fantastic. I like the eagle Cello theme very much. Okay the collecter's card is not my thing. But... overalll it's great

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

Just listened through disc 1, which features TWENTY-TWO versions (SEVENTY-FOUR minutes) of the main theme! Seriously. Yes, it's a good theme, but this is actually rather dull.

I really hope disc 2 is better. After all I paid 50 euro for this.

Does anyone agree?



Geez, 22 versions of the theme? They gotta be kidding. That seems kind of ... umm ... idiotic big grin

The main theme is good... not brilliant. Nothing that needs 22 versions. Is it actually 22 versions of the theme - the theme over and over again - or, music cues that feature the theme? Checking the samples on the website it isn't really clear.

I bought the original when it came up on iTunes, never having seen the show or heard the music before. It was good... not great. After hearing the original set, I have to say the mania over the music is baffling. Some of it had the sound that gives synth scores a bad name. Some of it had a real Casio vibe razz

The bright side is, if you have second thoughts you can probably unload it the whole thing on Ebay and make most of your money back.


It's both, many versions of the theme, AND music cues that feature the theme. They last from 0:27 to over 6 minutes.

As I mentioned above, disc 2 on this new set is brilliant, so I would never part with it. And I don't really agree about the Casio vibe, at least not Levay's (and Harpaz's) originals. I think I still consider Levay my favorite film composer.


I had an issue with one of the tracks from the Pilot episode. The keyboard sound isn't good and I wondered if it was the recreation and a sub-standard synth used. I thought that would be odd as the rest of the production sounded great. Well, I watched the Pilot again, yesterday, on Blu-ray and Sylvester Levay's keyboard sound was exactly the same. So, it was a faithful recreation - nothing more, nothing less.

I agree that having so many versions of the main theme, appears a bit OTT, but in context much of the score revolved around the main theme. (The same could probably be said if you listened to all of the Don Peake Knight Rider CDs).
Put the tracks from both Airwolf Volumes, in episodic order, and you've got a fantastic souvenir of a much loved 80s TV show.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

And I don't really agree about the Casio vibe, at least not Levay's (and Harpaz's) originals. I think I still consider Levay my favorite film composer.


Sorry, let me clarify, am referring only to the rerecording, since I've not heard the original. I do loves me some Levay at times. His contributions to Three O'Clock High were even better than the TD score. Levay's Cobra is a thick, dark score and that one, as well as some of his other GREAT td styled score, need some kind of release !

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2014 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

And I don't really agree about the Casio vibe, at least not Levay's (and Harpaz's) originals. I think I still consider Levay my favorite film composer.


Sorry, let me clarify, am referring only to the rerecording, since I've not heard the original. I do loves me some Levay at times. His contributions to Three O'Clock High were even better than the TD score. Levay's Cobra is a thick, dark score and that one, as well as some of his other GREAT td styled score, need some kind of release !


I agree. I'd also like to see expanded versions of the Three O'Clock High soundtrack and Cobra. Have you heard the soundtrack to Medicopter 117? It's on ITunes but the quality isn't very good. It sounds wispy like a bad 128kbps encode.

 
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