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 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Hair helmets do not always mean combover and vice versa. Plenty of guys back then sported a full, healthy head of hair. It is disconcerting to see seemingly every single man with some sick variation of the "hair-helmet-and-muttonchops-combo" hairdo. It's as though it were required. Longish hair on men would linger until perhaps the mid 1980s, when men's hair shortened considerably.

True enough. I was addressing the image of the fellow showing on the TV in the video above. It certainly looks like a comb-over to me with the amount of scalp showing above his forehead at the part.
Anyway, every decade has its share of hideous hairstyles. I see more and more of today's teenaged guys wearing their bangs down to and over their eyebrows like teens did in the 60s.

Back to the topic, thanks for the music vids Jim, ANZALDIMAN and Blue15. They are reminiscent of NFL Films music. I've been watching a lot of the old "This Week In Pro Football" vids from the 60s & 70s lately and I never grow tired of the Spence tunes nor the various Music Library tunes. An amusing side note in that I'm noticing that quite frequently Steve Sabol used his own voiceover as a stadium announcer and sometimes as an interviewer asking coaches a question.
A slight annoyance for me is the way they reused the same game sounds over and over when players are tackling, blocking, etc. One in particular has what sounds like a player yelling "Joe!" as he is hitting or being hit. It was used in many of the episodes from the early 70s; so often in fact, that I don't know the origin. I want to think it started with the highlight film of Super Bowl IV, when one of KC's linemen was sacking Joe Kapp, but I can't be sure.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Are there any music compilations from ESPN during the 90's into early 2000's. Specifically the music used on Chris Berman's show when they recapped the scores for the day every Sunday night?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

Alan Hawkshaw's "All Action" from the KPM Music Library. The NFL used this one quite a bit in the 80s, as did Roy Firestone's "Sportslook/Up Close" show on ESPN:

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

I'm no fan of ball I don't even know the rules barring TD!

However, Mr Spence & Co did surprise me with the Quality of "The Power & the Glory" it was so good it could be placed in movies.

Wherever its Orchestral colours flowing "The Final Quest" "A New Game" "Up She Rises" Etc.. or laid back jazz - jazzy fusions "The Lineman" Life on the Wild Side" Etc.. Sam attached some sweet sombre moods, bombastic egos & raw euphoria all ex art very-cool music for a ball-game.

Also the track have intervals of tempos & narrations for various commentaries they sound good its well crafted on one-another.

William Loose - great composer was a big contributor too NFL music, I found that out a while ago off YT.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Are there any music compilations from ESPN during the 90's into early 2000's. Specifically the music used on Chris Berman's show when they recapped the scores for the day every Sunday night?

Well I found the music on YT. Though the orchestration is different. Or maybe its just the poor quality of the video.


 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

In the '90s-early '00s, wasn't ESPN primarily releasing song compilations with only the occasional NFL Films cue added?

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Not really related to this thread, but in the realm of sports tv music, I remember back in the 80s some cable channel would broadcast PKA (Professional Karate Association) fights on Saturday(?) nights and they had cool intro music that I wish I could find. It was an electronic (synth?) score, likely one of the music library pieces from that era.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

In the '90s-early '00s, wasn't ESPN primarily releasing song compilations with only the occasional NFL Films cue added?

I dunno but I would really like a compilation of all the music from Prime Time. I especially love the first cue.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2018 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

You are quite correct Jim, the "Newsweek theme" was used in the NFL Films Super Bowl XVIII video. Raiders vs. Washington Redskins.

You'll hear it approximately at the 4:30 mark when the Raiders quarterback Jim Plunkett is releasing the football in one of those marvelous camera shots of the ball in the air that NFL Films is famous for.

They probably have used it other times as well, but this was the one time I recall it being used because I remembered the huge Marlboro billboard in the backround as the ball is spiraling in the air.

The legendary voice of NFL Films, John Facenda narrates.


"The Newsweek Theme"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBA0r9P7QLI


Beginning at about 16:35 into the above video.

"With it, fourth and one, Riggins was the only choice. Might as well die with your boots on."

~ John Facenda

Brilliant.


John Facenda was coming to the end of his storied career as the NFL Films narrator. And he was superb once again here. His voice work during this entire video was outstanding. Par for the course for John Facenda.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Not really related to this thread, but in the realm of sports tv music, I remember back in the 80s some cable channel would broadcast PKA (Professional Karate Association) fights on Saturday(?) nights and they had cool intro music that I wish I could find. It was an electronic (synth?) score, likely one of the music library pieces from that era.

I don't know PKA or much about obscure US tv, your best bet would be too look into obscure library labels. Koka-Media, Carling, Bruton, De-Wolfe, Cavendish, KPM, Bosworth/archives/Trunk, some of the pieces I found were used in tv shows, sports, pilots & ads.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2018 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)



Given my--and apparently the general--lack of interest in the NFL in recent years, it's always a good thing to see and hear these vintage NFL Films productions, especially from a time when the Miami Dolphins football team was actually great.

Thanks for posting "Last Second Victory."

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2018 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

...made all the greater by virtue of this year's Miami Dolphins having swept the New York Jets this season.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2018 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I don't know PKA or much about obscure US tv, your best bet would be too look into obscure library labels. Koka-Media, Carling, Bruton, De-Wolfe, Cavendish, KPM, Bosworth/archives/Trunk, some of the pieces I found were used in tv shows, sports, pilots & ads.

Thanks! smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Been trawling YouTube listening to NFL Films selections, and while it's not my personal favorite--though it's up there on the list--I think "Round Up" is the definitive NFL Films musical cue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDVrOLssN0&app=desktop

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Sam Spence - "Path to Victory" or "Cossacks Charge". Whichever title you prefer. The titles of the cues may have changed over the decades but the music remains the same. And of course, "the voice" John Facenda. Good little video that incorporates some quality photos of the greats of the game from days gone by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOHIwKopZ4A

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm also quite fond of "The Pony Soldiers", which admirably channels the Spaghetti Western sound.

If I may mix sports for a moment in making this comparison...When so many FSM threads come across like the pinched, painfully awkward banter on "Home Run Derby", this thread is like the mellifluous, sonorous tones of John Facenda. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

This film below is NFL Films gold for those of us who have posted on this thread.

It's a Sam Spence documentary. From the "Lost Treasures" series. Here Spence talks about some the influences for his music. Rozsa and Tiomkin are mentioned. Spence makes no bones about the influences. This program also gives us some insight into his process with input from the Sabols. The debut of Facenda. NFL Films composer Tom Hedden also weighs in. And if that weren't enough, there's also an interview with film editor Yoshio Kishi. It's been a while since I saw this. Good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71MPvwqBE80

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2018 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The Sam Spence segment in the linked video above begins at the 26:00 mark.

The film score geek guy who is described as being the world's #1 Sam Spence fan begins at the 30-minute mark. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2018 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The Sam Spence segment in the linked video above begins at the 26:00 mark.

The film score geek guy who is described as being the world's #1 Sam Spence fan begins at the 30-minute mark. big grin


And that same guy could probably also da da da! his way through most of the music from the original Star Wars trilogy. big grin

He seemed like a happy-go-lucky fellow. He reminded me of a cross between a young 1970's Harold Ramis with a sprinkle of Eddie Deezen thrown in. Kind of refreshing after sitting through the Kishi segment. The guy was about as warm and fuzzy as the reception that Dick Butkus gave to opposing quarterbacks. You get the impression Kishi wanted to drift away from the project like one of those balloons taking flight during the credit sequence.

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2018 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

He reminded me of a cross between a young 1970's Harold Ramis with a sprinkle of Eddie Deezen thrown in.

I'm sure a convincing argument could be made that all film score geeks have "a sprinkle of Eddie Deezen thrown in"...

...and in my case, a touch of Alan Fivehouse.

 
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